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Convert Crochet to Knit? No Not Really!

May 7th, 2007 at 17:58 pm » Comments (6)

Believe or not, I cleaned this up to be as gentle as possible.

I am almost positive it will, at best upset a few people and at worst really T-off some others.

So why write it? because sometimes it is needed to give a strong opinion even when it may be an unpleasant truth instead of what people want to hear.

CAN Crochet be CONVERTED To KNIT?

IMNHO – the best information about this can be found in the
Lion Brand FAQ

>>>
Question:
How do I convert a crochet pattern to knit?
Question: How do I convert a knit pattern to crochet?

Lion’s Answer to BOTH:

Knitting and crochet use stitches that are different sizes and shapes.

You can’t “convert” a pattern from one to the other.

Each pattern must be totally redesigned and even then, it’s not always possssible.

With all due respect to various authors, every book I have seen on this topic was not worth the investment either of money to buy it or time to read it.

Could you learn this in a class, maybe if the instructor was extremely well grounded technically and made it very clear that you are NOT converting, you are RE WRITING IN A DIFFERENT Discipline. And if you already possess the basic skills your your preferred craft, be it knit or crochet.

Otherwise, these books are not really helpful. Most of what I have read on the web about how to convert a pattern is so entirely simplistic and totally ignores the nuances of the differences in the finished fabric that at best, be it book or web “how to” are a nearly fool proof recipe for disappointment – your disappointment that is.

Just as “designing” for different size ranges often requires a nearly complete re-write of a pattern (unless you want really ugly fitting garments) Creating a similar look in another technique requires you have reasonable basic skills in BOTH techniques.

The truth is you can, IF you are technical enough to write your own patterns – and many experienced crocheters are, create a similar looking garment but you cannot convert “stitch for stitch” no matter what is says on all those websites.

If converting patterns is your goal, then you need to build your library of stitch instructions, and learn all the basic skills, including shaping, increases and decreases, shaping and oh yeah, that most dreaded of words, SWATCHING and not just a single swatch, if you want to create crochet instructions from knit, you need to plan to make several swatches.

Nancy Nehring is teaching a series of classes at CGOA this summer on designing simple garments and progressing into shaping – There are few people more qualified, as a technician and as a teacher to learn these skills from.

But IF the look and feel of knitting is desirable, then you need to get into Tunisian/Afghan crochet and learn those stitches. I believe there was still some seats in Darla Fanton’s Beginning Tunisian class is place to get grounded in that crochet technique.

Once you have learned these basic skills, you will be able to CREATE the look you want instead of being disappointed by the result attempting to “convert” without adequate skills and experience.

Wheat

P.S. my favorite “tool” for converting – sewing patterns but that is a blog-a-mentry for another day.

P.S. Jr, if you want to send me any website that you think has instructions that will really work, I am more than willing to look and give them a fair try.







Wheat’s Aluminum Crochet Hook Cross Reference

May 2nd, 2007 at 00:01 am » Comments (1)

This table is “current sizes” based on information provided at the manufacturer web sites and (added September 2007) for the corresponding US Knitting Needles, as shown at the yarnstandards.com resource website

Clover Soft Touch Aluminum Crochet Hook

You are welcome to link to this page or create your own.

Speaking of size, If Size Matters for your finished project, be sure to make a gauge swatch (I recommend TWO, one for reference and one to wash and dry as the project will be)

Shameless self promotion – my online store, ItsAllJustString.com offers all Crochet hooks offered by either Clover or Pony.

clover-straight-alum.gif

If you find any errors, be sure to let me know.

Wheat’s US-Metric Aluminum Crochet Hook Reference*

Wheat’s US-Metric Aluminum Crochet Hook Reference*
Alum
Milli
Meter
UK US Yarn
Std
Clover
or
Tulip
Clover
Soft
5.3/4″
Clover
Wood
6″
Pony
Set
Gift
Pony
Pearl
Boye
Alum
6″
Bates
2.00mm _ A-0 2/o - - - - - -
2.25mm 1 - 3/o B - - - B B
2.30mm _ B-1 3/o - B - - - -
2.50mm _ - 4/o C - 2.50 - - -
2.75mm 2 - - - C - - C C
3.00mm _ C-2 5/o D old - 3.00 - - -
3.25mm 3 - - D new - - - D D
3.50mm 4 D-3 6/o E - 3.50 - E E
3.75mm 5 E-4 - F D - F F F
4.00mm 6 F-5 7/o G E 4.00 G - G
4.25mm _ G-6 - - F - G -
4.50mm 7 - 7.5/o 7 G 4.50 - - -
5.00mm 8 _-7 8/o H H 5.00 H H H
5.50mm 9 H-8 9/o I I 5.50 I I I
6.00mm 10 I-9 10/o J J 6.00 J J J
6.50mm 10.5 J-10 - - 6.50 - K K
7.00mm _ K-10.5 - - - 7.00 K -
7.50mm _ - - - - 7.50 - - -
8.00mm 11 - - - - 8.00 - - L
9.00mm 13 L-8 - - - - M N -
10.00mm 15 N-13 - - - - - - N
12.75mm 17 - - - - - - - .
15.00mm 19 - - - - - - - .
19.00mm 35 - - - - - - - .
25.00mm 50 - - - - - - - .

  • Metric mm to in Conversions prepared using utilities found at:

    Metric Conversions.Org


  • Hook Photos Used With permission and thanks to US Distributors:

    Pony Needles Logo & CLover-USA-Logo

    Clover-USA and Muench Yarns-Pony Needles

  • last updated 2010-11-12 © Wheat Carr


Once again,

* Based on Data Current as of February 2007.
* ALWAYS MAKE A GAUGE SWATCH
* ALWAYS check/measure the diameter of your hook
- Older Hooks often do NOT have the same Diameter as those made today.
-
* If you find an error, please do comment or email with the correction.
2007-05-03: Thanks to Kim Guzman for catching the typo for the Clover H-I-J

2011-06-08: Thanks to Sarah for catching the “size N” glitch


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Earth Day The Crochet Way

April 22nd, 2007 at 07:35 am » Comments (1)

So where were you on that first “April 22nd Earth Day” back in 1970?

I was in Delhi NY getting the first of a series of Associate degrees – Sure wish I still had pictures of my friend Glenn’s VW bug and how we “decorated” it for the 1970 occasion.

What could be better this Earth Day than to combine recycling and crochet

That is why I knew I had to save this site to tell you about for this 37th anniversary of the April 22nd Earth day.

Not only does Cindy of MyRecycledBags.com tell you how to make yarn out of grocery bags and sacks but she offers free patterns for several.

Here are just two of the bags I found at Cindy’s Site – you can choose to crochet with recycled jeans or crochet with grocery bags or whatever else you want to reuse in honor of Earth Day.


MyRecycledBag-ShoulderBag


Now for the time to make them all (there is plenty of stuff around here to recycle) I think I will crochet with denim first.

Happy 37th April 22nd Earth Day

Wheat







Steel Crochet Hook Cross Reference

April 8th, 2007 at 06:05 am » Comments (1)

After doing this bit of Research, it was pretty easy to see why the Craft Yarn Council did not publish any standards for Steel Hooks in its Yarn Standards.Com charts

Most Steel Hooks Look like this:
cro-steel-straight-horiz.gif

However, for those who appreciate Gentle on your hands and wrist, it is so cool that Clover will be bringing the Steel Soft Touch to the US so they can be more available (now only one supplier has them and it is in the Japanese packaging.
cro-steel-soft-clover.gif
This will be great for those who like to do wire work as well.

Now back to the chart… It is fairly simple to see why good pattern editors (and designing authors) ALWAYS include the diameter of hooks and needles used – rather than just a “generic” letter or number.

I always prefer to base my Steel hook references and suggestions on metric measurements because all “brands” are made outside the US, in countries that base their engineering on M
etric standards, not Imperial.

If you would like details on Clover’s Soft Touch Steel hooks, including the thread sizes they recommend for each of their hooks, please visit our on-line retail shop ItsAllJustString.com

In a perfect world, these manufacturers will someday agree on “Size/Measurements” but probably not anytime soon.

Wheat’s US-Metric Steel Crochet Hook Reference*


Updated: 2008-09-14 © 2000-2008 WheatCarr
R
o
w
0
Col 1
Steel
MM
Col 2
Clover
Col 3
Clover
SoftTouch
Col 4
Pony
Col 5
Boye
Col 6
Bates
Col 7
Inox
Col 8
tulip
Skacel
R
o
w
1 0.40mm No 16 No 24 1
2 0.45mm - No 23 2
3 0.50mm No 14 No 15 No 14 3
4 0.55mm - No 13 4
5 0.60mm No 12 No 12 No 14 No 14 No 12 5
6 0.70mm No 13 - No 11 6
7 0.75mm No 10 No 10 No 12 No 14 No 13 No 10 7
8 0.85mm no-name No 13 - No 9 8
9 0.90mm No 8 No 8 no-name No 14 - No 8 9
10 0.95mm No 13 - No 7 10
11 1.00mm No 6 No 6 no-name No 12 No 12 No 12 No 6 11
12 1.05mm No 11 - - 12
13 1.10mm No 11 - No 5 13
14 1.15mm No 10 - 14
15 1.25mm No 4 No 4 No 8 No 9 No 10 No 4 15
16 1.30mm No 10 - No 3 16
17 1.40mm No 9 No 8 - - 17
18 1.50mm No 2 No 2 No 7 No 8 No 7 No 8 No 2 18
19 1.60mm No 6 - No 1 19
20 1.65mm No 7 - - 20
21 1.70mm No 5 - - 21
22 1.75mm No 0 No 0 No 4 No 4 No 6 No 0 22
23 1.80mm No 6 - - 23
24 1.90mm No 5 - - 24
25 2.00mm A-0 - - - No 4 2/0 25
26 2.20mm No 16 3/0 26
27 2.25mm - 2/o - - - - 27
28 2.30mm B-1 - - B - - 28
29 2.50mm - 3/o - - - 4/0 29
R
o
w
Col 1
Steel
MM
Col 2
Clover
Col 3
Clover
SoftTouch
Col 4
Pony
Col 5
Boye
Col 6
Bates
Col 7
Inox
Col 8
Tulip
R
o
w
* Based on Data Current as of February 2007,
  updated to add photos on 2007-May-02
  updated to add Tulip on 2007-May-24
  updated to add on 2008-Sep-14
* ALWAYS MAKE A GAUGE SWATCH
* ALWAYS check/measure the diameter of your hook
- Older Hooks often do NOT have the same Diameter as those made today.
-
* If you find an error, please do email me with the correction.

Incidentally, you can often find reasonably price templates intended for measuring screw sizes at your favorite Hardware store, (mine is ACE then Sears Tool department, since they are independently owned and the people at the ones nearest to me don’t ever laugh when I explain how I plan to use “stuff” – okay they do shake their head a lot, but they always understand what I want, if not why) As soon as I can find it, I will post a picture of my favorite one.

COMMERCIAL: If you want to add Clover Soft Touch Steel hooks to your collection, you can find them at: ItsAllJustString my on-line shop







Crochet – Thread Size Information

February 11th, 2007 at 04:10 am » Comments (4)

One of the most commonly asked questions about Perle Cotton for use in Thread Crochet has to do with a size
“Cross-Reference”

Because Presencia threads are among my personal favorites I use them as the basis of my comparison/reference charts.

So many things can effect how a thread “measures” (Humidity, spinning, storage, how it is “put up”) that is next to Impossible – While not exact, since sizing differs between Perle & Crochet threads, the following is a “ROT-Rule Of Thumb”.

(added 2008)It is very important to know that there are DIFFERENT “standards” for Wool, Cotton, Linen & Silk. The chart below is specific to Cotton since that is the most common thread used by Crochets

Wheat’s US-Metric Steel Crochet Hook Reference*


Last Updated: 2008-12-10 © 2000-2008 WheatCarr

R
o
w
0
Col 1
Crochet
Cotton
Range
Col 2
Steel
MM
Col 3
Clover
Col 4
Clover
Soft Touch
Col 5
Pony
Col 6
Boye
Col 7
Bates
Col 8
Inox
Col 9
tulip
Skacel
R
o
w
1 - 0.40mm No 16 No 24 1
2 - 0.45mm - No 23 2
3 80-100 0.50mm No 14 No 15 No 14 3
4 - 0.55mm - No 13 4
5 70 – 80 0.60mm No 12 No 12 No 14 No 14 No 12 5
6 - 0.70mm No 13 - No 11 6
7 50 – 80 0.75mm No 10 No 10 No 12 No 14 No 13 No 10 7
8 - 0.85mm no-name No 13 - No 9 8
9 40 – 60 0.90mm No 8 No 8 no-name No 14 - No 8 9
10 - 0.95mm No 13 - No 7 10
11 20 – 30 1.00mm No 6 No 6 no-name No 12 No 12 No 12 No 6 11
12 - 1.05mm No 11 - - 12
13 - 1.10mm No 11 - No 5 13
14 - 1.15mm No 10 - 14
15 18 – 30 1.25mm No 4 No 4 No 8 No 9 No 10 No 4 15
16 - 1.30mm No 10 - No 3 16
17 - 1.40mm No 9 No 8 - - 17
18 10 – 20 1.50mm No 2 No 2 No 7 No 8 No 7 No 8 No 2 18
19 - 1.60mm No 6 - No 1 19
20 - 1.65mm No 7 - - 20
21 - 1.70mm No 5 - - 21
22 8 – 18 1.75mm No 0 No 0 No 4 No 4 No 6 No 0 22
23 - 1.80mm No 6 - - 23
24 - 1.90mm No 5 - - 24
25 - 2.00mm A-0 - - - No 4 2/0 25
26 - 2.20mm No 16 3/0 26
27 - 2.25mm - 2/o - - - - 27
28 - 2.30mm B-1 - - B - - 28
29 - 2.50mm - 3/o - - - 4/0 29
R
o
w
0
Col 1
Crochet
Cotton
Range
Col 2
Steel
MM
Col 3
Clover
Col 4
Clover
Soft Touch
Col 5
Pony
Col 6
Boye
Col 7
Bates
Col 8
Inox
Col 9
tulip
Skacel
R
o
w
* Based on Data Current as of February 2007,
  updated to add photos on 2007-May-02
  updated to add Tulip on 2007-May-24
  updated to add on 2008-Sep-14

* Thread Hook Size Suggestions used courtesy of Clover® Needlecraft, Inc

* ALWAYS MAKE A GAUGE SWATCH
* ALWAYS check/measure the diameter of your hook
- Older Hooks often do NOT have the same Diameter as those made today.
-
* If you find an error, please do email me with the correction.

Average Yards per pound is how many yards of thread you would get on a one-pound cone.
If you have a large project, buying coned yarns can be very economical.

Most balls of crochet cotton seem to have about 400-450 yds

So using an old J&P Coats pattern which called for J&P COATS Size 20: (GREEN LABEL) 24 balls of White or Ecru. which, according to a Trademark infringement case:
” which is wound on spools of 200- yard lengths, “

This project calls about 4800 yards of Size 20 thread. If you selected some commonly available size 20 thread at the best price I could fine “on-line” you would need at least 12 balls at $3.27 – add in one ball to be sure you have enough, and the shipping so call it $45.

Now if you bought 2# of one of my favorite 10/2 Mercerized Cottons from WEBS

Even the Varigated is only $18.95 per pound
so for $40 you not only have plenty for project, you save at least $5 and have extra for “something else.
and you would save even more if your total order of discountables (did I mention I have not very often not qualified for at least the 20% discount

In case you haven’t guessed, WEBS is a long time (been a customer for more than 30 years) favorite place to shop.

In fact, I have been know to drive 150 miles (each way) OUT of the way to visit them

They have a famous back room. Think Wholesale club like Sam’s or Costco, but all yarn “buys” – the first time I went there, they gave me a stupid market size shopping cart and pushed me thru the door, “See you in a few hours – we’ll holler when its close to closing time” Mind you this was at 10am and yes, I was there to be hollered at (although we did leave for lunch and come back for round two)

HTH

Wheat

P.S. I promise to add the WPI as soon as I find where I put that piece of paper

If you have different information, please share, there is no such thing as too much information when it comes to the materials and tools we all love to use.







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